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This page was created to understand some Vidicon repair and interchanagability
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[https://www.artisantg.com/info/PDF__48616D616D617473755F43616D6572615F436174616C6F67.pdf Catalog]
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C2400-16 1-inch Super- Harpicon. 400 to 700 nm, 0.001 to 10 lux
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<br />
 
==Vidicon==
 
==Vidicon==
 
Heads:
 
Heads:
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!Tube
 
!Tube
 
!Resolution
 
!Resolution
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!Sensitivity
 
!Yoke
 
!Yoke
 
!Notes
 
!Notes
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|-
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|C790-10
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|
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|X-ray
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|No silkscreen
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Metal:
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1206341
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IDI USA
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|
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|
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|XVC-492E
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|
 
|-
 
|-
 
|C2400-03
 
|C2400-03
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|IR
 
|IR
 
800-2100 nm
 
800-2100 nm
−
|
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400-1800 nm
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|1"
 
|720 x 576
 
|720 x 576
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600 line
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|0.1-10 lux
 
|
 
|
 
|Lens: Xenoplan 1,4/23 mm
 
|Lens: Xenoplan 1,4/23 mm
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Advertised in new catalog as the only modern IR vidicon supported
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|-
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|C2400-05
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|
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|UV
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250-750 nm
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|1"
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|700 line
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|0.01-1 lux
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|
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|
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|-
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|C2400-07
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|
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|Visible microscope
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|Newvicon / Matsushita
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|
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|
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|
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|Advertised in new catalog as the only modern general vidicon supported
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|-
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|C2400-08
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|
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|400-850 nm?
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|1"
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?
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|
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|
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|XVC-492E
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|McMaster
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Fiber bundle, fluoroscope, or something weird like that. Has electrical connection?
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Tube hard to get to, but could take out if really determined. Would need to remove either (fiber bundle connector?) or most of the electronics
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|-
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|C2400-53
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|
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|IR
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400-1800 nm
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|2/3"
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|550 line
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|0.1-10 lux
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|
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|
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|-
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|C2400-55
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|
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|UV
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250-750 nm
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|2/3"
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|700 line
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|0.01-1 lux
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|
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|
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|-
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|C2741-
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|
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|400-850 nm
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|1"
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NEWVICON
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S4076
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MATSUSHITA
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|
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|
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|
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|McMaster weird poorly marked unit
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Much faster tube response than C2741-03
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S/N 0131K
 
|-
 
|-
 
|C2741-03
 
|C2741-03
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1"
 
1"
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Mc: N2606-10
 
|600 horizontal
 
|600 horizontal
  
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CCIR: 625x509
 
CCIR: 625x509
−
|
 
 
|S/N: 46 dB p-p/rms
 
|S/N: 46 dB p-p/rms
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|KV-5767
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|[http://alacron.com/clientuploads/directory/Cameras/HAMAMATSU/c2741-03-Datasheet.pdf Datasheet]
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McMaster has a few
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[https://dagemti.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/LSC70spec.pdf Dage LSC-70 replacement] suggests could be PbS tube coating. Has some N2606 curves
 
|-
 
|-
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|C2741-03B
 
|
 
|
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|1800 nm
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|N2606-02
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
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|22/01/2008
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£8,340
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Package includes Camera Head, Controller Unit,
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Camera Cable & BNC to BNC Cable
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Also:
 +
 +
PC2Vision Frame Grabber Card & Cable Set
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Wasabi for Video Acquisition & Analysis Software
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|}
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C2400 and C2741 seem generally compatible. 
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<nowiki>https://www.artisantg.com/info/PDF__48616D616D617473755F43323430305F43616D6572615F446174617368656574.pdf</nowiki> 
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{| class="wikitable"
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!Board
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!Label
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!Used on
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!Note
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|-
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|NSVP04-1
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|DEF FOCUS
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|C2400-08
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C2741-03
 
|
 
|
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|-
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|113611B
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|PREAMP
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|C2741-03
 
|
 
|
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|-
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|113611A
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|PREAMP
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|C2400-08
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|
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|-
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|0XVP02-2
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|DEF FOCUS
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|C790-10
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|
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|-
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|0XVP01-2
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|PRE AMP
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|C790-10
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|
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|-
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|0XPPOI-2
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|HV-POWER
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|C790-10
 
|
 
|
 
|}
 
|}
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<br />
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===Tube===
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The one C2400 camera I have has a "Vidicon camera fitted with an N2606-10 or N214 lead sulphide tube."
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Potential IR vidicon tubes:
 +
 +
*Matsushita 25PE14
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*Mullard XQ1443
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**NEWVICON® television camera tube with a photoconductive target composed of cadmium and zinc tellurides featuring high resolution and an extremely high sensitivity extending into the near infrared region
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[[File:hamamatsu_c2741-03_spec_response.png]]
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[[File:dage-mti_70_series_spec_response.png]]
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[[File:digital_heritage_fig82_n214.png]]
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[[File:rca_sit_brochure_figure.png]]
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[[File:Fusion technology pg559 table1 neutron vidicon.png]]
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==C790 X-Ray camera==  
 
==C790 X-Ray camera==  
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Maybe 22 or 24 AWG on connector. Power pins don't appear to use a larger gauge than the rest.<br />
 
Maybe 22 or 24 AWG on connector. Power pins don't appear to use a larger gauge than the rest.<br />
  
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== CCD ==
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==CCD==
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{| class="wikitable"
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|+
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!Model
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!Connector
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!For
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!Tube
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!Resolution
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!Yoke
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!Notes
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|-
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|C5840-10: EIA
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C5840-11: CCIR
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|
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|IR
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400 to 1650 nm
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|2/3"?
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|
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|
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|[http://alacron.com/clientuploads/directory/Cameras/HAMAMATSU/c5840-10-Datasheet.pdf Datasheet]
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Datasheet has graph comparing to C2741-03. TLDR: this is much less sensitive
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|}
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C2741-63 camera controller
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*12PinCCD camera connector
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*RS-232C
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*12PIN cable 5 m A3194-01 <br />
  
  
 
C6086 Series X-Ray CCD Camera
 
C6086 Series X-Ray CCD Camera
  
−
* 25 μm (C6086-03, 04)
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*25 μm (C6086-03, 04)
−
* 30 μm (C6086-53, 54)
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*30 μm (C6086-53, 54)
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* 43 μm (C6086-13, 14)
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*43 μm (C6086-13, 14)
−
* 62 μm (C6086-23, 24)
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*62 μm (C6086-23, 24)
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* Effective X-ray tube voltage range
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*Effective X-ray tube voltage range
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* 10 to 100 kVp
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*10 to 100 kVp
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<br /><nowiki>https://www.artisantg.com/info/PDF__48616D616D617473755F43323430305F33325F33355F446174617368656574.pdf</nowiki>
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<nowiki>https://www.artisantg.com/info/ATGckodl.pdf</nowiki>
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C2400-77 2/3-inch Interline CCD
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C2400-75 1/2-inch Interline CCD
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<br />
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==McMaster==
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===2019-12-09===
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Summary
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 +
-Composite capture working okay
 +
 
 +
-Pre-amp currently in iffy causes flicker
 +
 
 +
originally in "bad"
 +
 
 +
-Both C2741-03 tubes are slow response
 +
 
 +
-Each C2741-03 tube has a defect as currently used
 +
 
 +
Esj 54: poor SNR
 +
 
 +
Esj 31: uneven illumination
 +
 
 +
can be trimmed?
 +
 
 +
I believe they exhibit the same defect no matter the unit put into
 +
 
 +
-All 3 units use KV-5767 yoke assembly
 +
 
 +
-Pre-amps look like they are interchangable between C2741-03 and C2741-, but appear not to be
 +
 
 +
-Different tubes
 +
 
 +
C2741-03: N2606-10
 +
 
 +
C2741-: S4076
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 +
-Haven't touched C2400
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 +
-Haven't compard to
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 +
<nowiki>https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Used-Tubes-3-Newvicon-S4076-Vidicon-Tube-One-RCA-8507A-Untested-But-Guaranteed/383310410334?hash=item593f14b25e:g:ByAAAOSwCL9d6HFD</nowiki>
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 +
4 Used Tubes-3 Newvicon S4076 Vidicon Tube One RCA 8507A Untested But Guaranteed
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 +
probably should get these to play with
 +
<br />
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 +
===2019-12-11===
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Swapped C790-10 tube into C2741 and it doesn't seem to produce any significantly better results. I was able to tune better, but significant defects still present. Took a video, maybe post
 +
 
 +
Several x-ray experiments on S4076. Its either not x-ray sensitive or very weakly sensitive. N2606 might be more sensitive though
 +
 
 +
TODO: review <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrXVpgP6IQw</nowiki>
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 +
<br />
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===2019-12-13===
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Comparing misc controllers:
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 +
*C790-10 X-RAY TV CAMERA, S/N 88074380
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*C2741- CAMERA CONTROL UNIT, S/N 0131K
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*C2741 CAMERA CONTROLLER, S/N 091264
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*C2400 CAMERA CONTROLLER, S/N 931545
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"CAMERA CONTROLLER"
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 +
*These appear basically identical in every regard I can tell except the C2741, which is literally a sticky label different
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*Have different PCB revs, but this seems more of circumstance than an actual design difference
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*Suggests C2741 was analog legacy design and C2400 is functionally equivalent digital design
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{| class="wikitable"
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|+
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!Feature
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!C790
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88074380
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!C2741
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0131K
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!C2741
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091264
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!C2400
  
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931545
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|-
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|Construction
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|
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|Analog
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Older
 +
 +
Card cage
 +
 +
Cable wraps
 +
 +
 +
Cage
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 +
SHADING
 +
 +
BOOS TER (ASC)
 +
 +
INVERTER (ASC)
 +
 +
SYNC
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|Digital
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Newer
 +
|
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|-
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|Main board
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|Multi level
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Top: OXVP03-2 PROCESS
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|NSVP10-3
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CAMERA CONTROL
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|113632B PROCESS
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|113632C PROCESS
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|-
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|Display
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|
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|None
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|Digital
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OK
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|Digital
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Bad
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 +
Swapping other 22CV10AP fixes
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|-
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|Camera connector
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|
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|Top row fully populated
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|Missing pin on top row
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|
 +
|-
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|Tuning
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|
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|Screwdriver pots
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|Knobs
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|
 +
|-
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|AGC connector
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|
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|No
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|Labels almost implying there used to be a switch there
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|
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|-
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|Transformer
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|Visually different
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C790-10J
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|C2400AT.J
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|C2400CT-UJ
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|C2400CT-UJ
 +
|-
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|Power PCB
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|CB0094B
 +
|CB0193
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|CB95Y27
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|CB95Y27
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|}
 
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<br />

Latest revision as of 21:13, 14 December 2019

This page was created to understand some Vidicon repair and interchanagability

Catalog


C2400-16 1-inch Super- Harpicon. 400 to 700 nm, 0.001 to 10 lux


Vidicon

Heads:

Model Connector For Tube Resolution Sensitivity Yoke Notes
C790-10 X-ray No silkscreen

Metal:

1206341

IDI USA

XVC-492E
C2400-03 IR

800-2100 nm

400-1800 nm

1" 720 x 576

600 line

0.1-10 lux Lens: Xenoplan 1,4/23 mm

Advertised in new catalog as the only modern IR vidicon supported

C2400-05 UV

250-750 nm

1" 700 line 0.01-1 lux
C2400-07 Visible microscope Newvicon / Matsushita Advertised in new catalog as the only modern general vidicon supported
C2400-08 400-850 nm? 1"

?

XVC-492E McMaster

Fiber bundle, fluoroscope, or something weird like that. Has electrical connection?


Tube hard to get to, but could take out if really determined. Would need to remove either (fiber bundle connector?) or most of the electronics

C2400-53 IR

400-1800 nm

2/3" 550 line 0.1-10 lux
C2400-55 UV

250-750 nm

2/3" 700 line 0.01-1 lux
C2741- 400-850 nm 1"

NEWVICON

S4076

MATSUSHITA

McMaster weird poorly marked unit


Much faster tube response than C2741-03


S/N 0131K

C2741-03 IR

400 to 1800 nm

400 to 2200 nm

N2606

N2606-06

1"


Mc: N2606-10

600 horizontal


EIA: 525x485

CCIR: 625x509

S/N: 46 dB p-p/rms KV-5767 Datasheet


McMaster has a few

Dage LSC-70 replacement suggests could be PbS tube coating. Has some N2606 curves

C2741-03B 1800 nm N2606-02 22/01/2008

£8,340

Package includes Camera Head, Controller Unit,

Camera Cable & BNC to BNC Cable


Also:

PC2Vision Frame Grabber Card & Cable Set

Wasabi for Video Acquisition & Analysis Software

C2400 and C2741 seem generally compatible.

https://www.artisantg.com/info/PDF__48616D616D617473755F43323430305F43616D6572615F446174617368656574.pdf

Board Label Used on Note
NSVP04-1 DEF FOCUS C2400-08

C2741-03

113611B PREAMP C2741-03
113611A PREAMP C2400-08
0XVP02-2 DEF FOCUS C790-10
0XVP01-2 PRE AMP C790-10
0XPPOI-2 HV-POWER C790-10


Tube

The one C2400 camera I have has a "Vidicon camera fitted with an N2606-10 or N214 lead sulphide tube."


Potential IR vidicon tubes:

  • Matsushita 25PE14
  • Mullard XQ1443
    • NEWVICON® television camera tube with a photoconductive target composed of cadmium and zinc tellurides featuring high resolution and an extremely high sensitivity extending into the near infrared region

Hamamatsu c2741-03 spec response.png

Dage-mti 70 series spec response.png

Digital heritage fig82 n214.png

Rca sit brochure figure.png

Fusion technology pg559 table1 neutron vidicon.png


C790 X-Ray camera

moved from https://nucwiki.org/wiki/index.php/Hamamatsu_C790

mcmaster: got "X-RAY TV CAMERA" off of eBay missing cable. Both the camera and controller are marked C790-10 Was able to source something close to the needed CMC connectors and was able to retool for the proper cable. Now need to wire between them so I can boot the unit

Some relationship to Softex. Maybe they are used in Softex machines?

All wires on connector are used (at least on camera side).

Japan imports DDK JMSP2528 connector 025-028 silver-plated 28 core aviation plug 4 thick needle 24 thin needle

"Hamamatsu Softex X-Ray TV Camera controller C3205": seems to use the same connector

"Hamamatsu C6086 X-Ray Camera Controller": for CCD I think, not compatible

Head: MODEL C790, TYPE 10, SER.NO 88054284

Controller: MODEL C790, TYPE 10, SER.NO 88074380

Camera

Appears to be vidicon? Hard to see...in a black sub-enclosure. Enclosure is marked

YOKE ASSEMBLY XVC-492E HC-01 CHUOMUSEN CO., LTD. MADE IN JAPAN 378024

Boards:

  • OXVPOI-2 PRE AMP
  • OXPPOI-2 HV-POWER
  • OXVPO2-2 DEF FOCUS


Maybe 22 or 24 AWG on connector. Power pins don't appear to use a larger gauge than the rest.

CCD

Model Connector For Tube Resolution Yoke Notes
C5840-10: EIA

C5840-11: CCIR

IR

400 to 1650 nm

2/3"? Datasheet

Datasheet has graph comparing to C2741-03. TLDR: this is much less sensitive


C2741-63 camera controller

  • 12PinCCD camera connector
  • RS-232C
  • 12PIN cable 5 m A3194-01


C6086 Series X-Ray CCD Camera

  • 25 μm (C6086-03, 04)
  • 30 μm (C6086-53, 54)
  • 43 μm (C6086-13, 14)
  • 62 μm (C6086-23, 24)
  • Effective X-ray tube voltage range
  • 10 to 100 kVp


https://www.artisantg.com/info/PDF__48616D616D617473755F43323430305F33325F33355F446174617368656574.pdf

https://www.artisantg.com/info/ATGckodl.pdf


C2400-77 2/3-inch Interline CCD

C2400-75 1/2-inch Interline CCD


McMaster

2019-12-09

Summary

-Composite capture working okay

-Pre-amp currently in iffy causes flicker

originally in "bad"

-Both C2741-03 tubes are slow response

-Each C2741-03 tube has a defect as currently used

Esj 54: poor SNR

Esj 31: uneven illumination

can be trimmed?

I believe they exhibit the same defect no matter the unit put into

-All 3 units use KV-5767 yoke assembly

-Pre-amps look like they are interchangable between C2741-03 and C2741-, but appear not to be

-Different tubes

C2741-03: N2606-10

C2741-: S4076

-Haven't touched C2400

-Haven't compard to

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Used-Tubes-3-Newvicon-S4076-Vidicon-Tube-One-RCA-8507A-Untested-But-Guaranteed/383310410334?hash=item593f14b25e:g:ByAAAOSwCL9d6HFD

4 Used Tubes-3 Newvicon S4076 Vidicon Tube One RCA 8507A Untested But Guaranteed

probably should get these to play with

2019-12-11

Swapped C790-10 tube into C2741 and it doesn't seem to produce any significantly better results. I was able to tune better, but significant defects still present. Took a video, maybe post

Several x-ray experiments on S4076. Its either not x-ray sensitive or very weakly sensitive. N2606 might be more sensitive though

TODO: review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrXVpgP6IQw


2019-12-13

Comparing misc controllers:

  • C790-10 X-RAY TV CAMERA, S/N 88074380
  • C2741- CAMERA CONTROL UNIT, S/N 0131K
  • C2741 CAMERA CONTROLLER, S/N 091264
  • C2400 CAMERA CONTROLLER, S/N 931545

"CAMERA CONTROLLER"

  • These appear basically identical in every regard I can tell except the C2741, which is literally a sticky label different
  • Have different PCB revs, but this seems more of circumstance than an actual design difference
  • Suggests C2741 was analog legacy design and C2400 is functionally equivalent digital design
Feature C790

88074380

C2741

0131K

C2741

091264

C2400

931545

Construction Analog

Older

Card cage

Cable wraps


Cage

SHADING

BOOS TER (ASC)

INVERTER (ASC)

SYNC

Digital

Newer

Main board Multi level

Top: OXVP03-2 PROCESS

NSVP10-3

CAMERA CONTROL

113632B PROCESS 113632C PROCESS
Display None Digital

OK

Digital

Bad

Swapping other 22CV10AP fixes

Camera connector Top row fully populated Missing pin on top row
Tuning Screwdriver pots Knobs
AGC connector No Labels almost implying there used to be a switch there
Transformer Visually different

C790-10J

C2400AT.J C2400CT-UJ C2400CT-UJ
Power PCB CB0094B CB0193 CB95Y27 CB95Y27


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