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− | * drive: 10.2 R | + | *drive: 10.2 R |
− | * osc: 5.6 R | + | *osc: 5.6 R |
− | ** *** out of spec | + | **<nowiki>*** out of spec</nowiki> |
− | ** consistent with a failed motor | + | **consistent with a failed motor |
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+ | failed motors appear to be caused by carbon buildup from brushes. They will fail very quickly if you operate them even close to their rated voltage. I was able to disassemble and blow one out to fix it. Now it runs at about 12.22V @ 350 mA. Current went down over time, maybe was 500 mA initially | ||
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+ | Lets try another... initially 12.22V @ 1.25 A. Visible smoke. Rotor very dirty...should have cleaned other rotor. After cleaning dropped to 12.22V @ 1.1A and then rose up. Hmmm | ||
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Revision as of 07:58, 24 February 2020
Motor
Both motors (drive, osc) were identical
PITTMAN GM8712-41 19.1 VDC 187:1 RATIO MFG 05-29-98 S
33 and 17 ohm. Is one of these damaged? Why are their resistances so different?
Tried testing under load
- black goop
- 12.19 V @ 1.266 A (current limited)
- 8 ohm after
- other
- Initially drawing way less current than first
- 12.12 V @ 0.332 A (voltage limited)
- then started smoking
- 11.68 V @ 1.248 A (current limited)
- 6 ohm after
- Initially drawing way less current than first
Aren't these rated 19.1 V? Am I misunderstanding?
Try pinning out the spare bad head
- 1-5: 2.8 k
- 2-6: 147 R
- weird...
what does the secondary machine test? (believe good)
- 1-5: 9.0 R
- 2-6: 10.4 R
What is max voltage allied puts out on motors?
- 1-5
- 7.6 (fixed)
- osc
- 2-6
- 15.0 (max)
- drive
Head connector
Head plug
- 4x2 (8 pins)
- 3 mm pitch
- Head female, cable male
- Maybe Minitek Pwr™ 3.0 Series
- https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/amphenol-icc-fci/10132445-08LF/609-5283-ND/7590945
Mini-amphenol | mini-DIN | Signal | Note |
---|---|---|---|
1 | 1 | ||
2 | 2 | ||
3 | 8 | ||
4 | 7 | ||
5 | 3 | ||
6 | 5 | ||
7 | 6 | ||
8 | N/C |
Mini-amphenol | mini-DIN | Signal | Note |
---|---|---|---|
1 | |||
2 | |||
3 | |||
4 | |||
5 | |||
6 | |||
7 | |||
8 |
Motor on mini-DIN
- 1: drive motor +
- 3: drive motor -
- 7 V
Mini-amphenol | cpc | Signal | Note |
---|---|---|---|
1 | 8 | ||
2 | 6 | ||
3 | 1 | ||
4 | 4 | ||
5 | 5 | ||
6 | 3 | ||
7 | 2 | ||
8 | N/C |
Tach board
- Adapts 8 pin to 4 pin
- Includes cap + 4 pin SMD component (489, probably hall effect sensor)
- Must interface to those two red things I was confused about...looks like they have magnets on the end
- Minitek 4x2
- 1: 4x1.1
- 2: 4x1.3
- 3: hall, cap
- 4: hall
- 5: 4x1.2
- 6: 4x1.4
- 7: hall, cap
- 8: chassis ground
- 4x1
- 1: osc
- 2: osc
- 3: drive
- 4: drive
Test primary machine motor via 4x1
- drive: 10.2 R
- osc: 5.6 R
- *** out of spec
- consistent with a failed motor
failed motors appear to be caused by carbon buildup from brushes. They will fail very quickly if you operate them even close to their rated voltage. I was able to disassemble and blow one out to fix it. Now it runs at about 12.22V @ 350 mA. Current went down over time, maybe was 500 mA initially
Lets try another... initially 12.22V @ 1.25 A. Visible smoke. Rotor very dirty...should have cleaned other rotor. After cleaning dropped to 12.22V @ 1.1A and then rose up. Hmmm
McMaster
2020-01-14
- Win cross sectioning kit
2020-02-20
- Order sample holder
- Order replacement tubing
- Later found I had some spare, but meh can use for other projects
Primary
S/N 568
Hermitage: Allvia Sunnyvale? Not sure if they are still in business
2019-12-19
- Submitted offer. Negotiations failed
2020-02-19
- Seller accepted offer (was firm at old offer). Local pick up
2020-02-232
- Swap DRO from spare to primary machine
- Replace rusted micrometer
2020-02-23
- Observe osc motor is not moving
- Observe osc doesn't have slit like spare to keep in place...how is it supposed to work?
- Is this a DRM thing of sort where they didn't supply the right adapter if the user didn't purchase osc option?
- ie the motor was intentionally disabled and also mechanically hindered
Spare
???
- Won a few lots of parts TechPrep heads
- Goal: combine into one good head and mount on SBT machine
2019-03-20
- Try to get old TechPrep base. Negotiations failed
2019-12-20
- Won old TechPrep base machine. Change plan from retrofitting SBT machine to actually fitting on this machine
- Without reference machine a little difficult to piece together
- Machine filthy. Significant cleaning
2020-02-23
- Used reference machine to greatly accelerate repairs
- Made cable to hook up head
- E1.43 (error code?) persists, but machine seems to work fine